[2011.08.06] 奥巴马总统的表现不如人意

引用 klavier 2011-8-9 14:39

crystallised 我想这里应该是“坐实”而不是"消除"

引用 brightmind 2011-8-9 19:27

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从crystal的意义上讲应该如此。

引用 zss1357 2011-8-9 22:53

赞同楼上上看法…联系上下文看…crystalize应该是“证实，使明确”的意思吧？

引用 migmig 2011-8-9 22:58

将债务上限提高2.1万亿美元至2.4万亿美元
这句话有歧义。
1.提高（2.1，2.4）这个区间的某个值，如2.2(原意)
2.提高2.1万亿美元，现在债务上限为2.4万亿美元。

引用 migmig 2011-8-9 23:00

在最后一刻，就在本周奥巴马50岁生日之前
本周，就在奥巴马50岁生日之前最后一刻

引用 migmig 2011-8-9 23:03

本帖最后由 migmig 于 2011-8-9 23:03 编辑

在他担任总统期间已经毫无危险
在他担任总统期间债务上限已经毫无风险？

引用 migmig 2011-8-9 23:08

2008年的超级明星曾经看起来必定会连任，但是现在看起来似乎非常不堪一击
2008年的超级明星曾经貌似必将连任，但是现在却似乎不堪一击？

引用 migmig 2011-8-9 23:09

奥巴马先生连任的可能性越来越小，是否能连任将取决于
奥巴马先生越来越小的连任可能性将取决于……

仅供参考。

引用 Sophia2011 2011-8-10 02:37

贝拉克•奥巴马?
似乎“巴拉克•奥巴马”更常见吧？

引用 sailor 2011-8-10 08:24

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“坐实疑问”觉得怪怪的，其实原文的意思就是“对他的领导能力没有疑问了，就是不行”

引用 sailor 2011-8-10 08:31

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But this does not mean that the roof is not still in danger of falling in on his presidency. 这句话需要好好讨论一下，当时翻的时候有点卡住了。一开始时，翻的意思和你这个差不多。但是下文有For example, the debt ceiling has been raised by enough to see the country through the far side of the coming election, without another nail-biting stand-off in between. 显然在他任职期间不会再出现超过债务上限的问题，因此我就觉得这里应该是指总统今后还会面临其他的困境。

引用 sailor 2011-8-10 08:32

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两个都可以，这个问题都不大，中国官方报纸都用“贝拉克·奥巴马”。

引用 yannanchen 2011-8-10 10:50

本帖最后由 yannanchen 于 2011-8-10 17:28 编辑

war chest 翻译错了， 这里是 为竞选筹措的资金In arms and armor, a war chest is a container for the personal weapons and protective gear of a citizen-soldier, kept in the household, and is the origin of the term.

Contents [hide]
1 In politics
2 In business
3 In professional sports
4 Related terms
5 References


[edit] In politicsIn politics, a war chest is funding obtained from donors well in advance of a campaign, usually accumulated by an incumbent for either re-election or to contest a more advanced office, or provided by a wealthy candidate to their own campaign. The possession of such excess funds may discourage otherwise viable candidates from a primary or general election challenge.

[edit] In businessIn business a war chest, or cash mountain is a stash of money set aside to deal with unexpected changes in the business environment, or to use when expansion possibilities arise.[1] The term originates with the medieval practice of having a chest, literally, filled with money to open in time of war.

Today companies can use accumulated cash or rely on quickly raised debt which costs less to carry when you don't need it. This is not always a reasonable substitute, as the debt available to a company typically drops as a result of the same actions that require the war chest to be opened.

Companies can redistribute their war chests to shareholders by issuing larger or special dividends, or more commonly through share buyback operations. Companies do this because if actually held in cash, the companies will be earning a low rate of return in the money markets, whereas they could be using the funds to invest in more profitable projects. If they continue not to invest the funds, shareholders may sell the company's shares and make it vulnerable to a takeover. This would place the current management's jobs at risk.

[edit] In professional sportsIn football it refers to the amount of money a manager has been given by a club's chairman, owner or investors to acquire new players, as in the newspaper headline, "Defoe and Brown top Keegan wishlist as Ashley grants £25m war chest".[2]

[edit] Related termsWar chests are also referred to as surplus cash, cash reserves, emergency reserves, acquisition funds, rainy day funds, or undistributed earnings within different contexts.

[edit] References

引用 ss17shengsheng 2011-8-10 15:26

war chest 是指国防开支吗？
还有，那个crystalised doubts应该是说总统先生领导能力问题凸显吧。
但是，这个文好多短语长句，很难翻的。

引用 zhyue0356 2011-8-10 16:06

第一段：有些描写挺好的，给简单化了。  on his watch 翻译成“眼睁睁看着”比较形象。另the roof is not still in danger of falling  “还有房顶塌陷的危险”，直接翻译成“毫无危险”，比较生硬。

引用 yannanchen 2011-8-10 17:36

crys·tal·lize also crys·tal·ize (krst-lz)
v. crys·tal·lized also crys·tal·ized, crys·tal·liz·ing also crys·tal·iz·ing, crys·tal·liz·es also crys·tal·iz·es
v.tr.
1. To cause to form crystals or assume a crystalline structure.
2. To give a definite, precise, and usually permanent form to: The scientists finally crystallized their ideas about the role of the protein.3. To coat with crystals, as of sugar.

使。。。成形， 使。。。具体化

引用 yannanchen 2011-8-10 17:47

But the comic opera has meanwhile crystallised doubts about the quality of his leadership. After all, the Republicans won this round, even if they did not win everything they wanted. ...... But on the core principle that Mr Obama chose to put at the centre of the fight—the need, for fairness’s sake, to tackle the deficit with tax rises on the rich as well as spending cuts—it was he who gave way. 但是同时这场喜歌剧消除了有关其领导能力的疑问。

评论： 怎么是消除？ 翻译反了。 不但没有消除， 反而是坐实。 坐实翻译的很好。

请看原文怎么说的？ the Republicans won this round（共和党人赢了一回合）
on the core principle that Mr Obama chose to put at the centre of the fight，it was he who gave way =it was Obama who gave way on the core principle that he chose to put at the centre of the fight，（是奥巴马放弃了他原先确定作为这场论战焦点的核心原则。）

引用 yannanchen 2011-8-10 17:57

The president, it is true, did not lose the fight because he lost the argument. 的确不能说，因为总统输掉了这次辩论就输掉了这场战争。

评论： 诚然， 总统输了这场战斗不是因为他辩论输了。（承认他这场战斗输了， 原译给人的印象是他没有输战斗， 只是输辩论）

引用 yannanchen 2011-8-10 18:00

An alarming number of them sounded crazy enough to carry out this threat.大量共和党人似乎疯狂到了发出这样的威胁，令人担忧

评论： carry out 没有译出。 不是发出威胁， 而是将口头威胁转为实际行动。

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