[2011.02.24] 丰衣足食的前景

引用 aubreychen 2011-3-5 19:48

changes in food demand will come mainly from changing diets and the biggest food-supply problem will be dealing with the effects of climate change.
粮食需求问题将从改变饮食和解决粮食供应这个最大的问题为主变为如何应对气候变化的影响上来。
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我觉得这句好分开来说比较好。
日常饮食的改变将是食物需求的变化的主要原因，而最大的食物供应问题将是如何应对气候变化带来的影响。

引用 aubreychen 2011-3-5 20:32

日常饮食的改变将是食物需求的变化的主要原因，而食物供应的最大问题将是面对气候变化带来的影响。

这样这样。。本来语序颠倒着翻译的，颠倒回来的时候忘记删减了。。

引用 dqzxf 2011-3-5 20:47

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changes in food demand will come mainly from changing diets and the biggest food-supply problem will be dealing with the effects of climate change.
粮食需求问题将从改变饮食和解决粮食供应这个最大的问题为主变为如何应对气候变化的影响上来。
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这句话确有问题。
修改为：日常饮食结构的改变将成为导致粮食需求产生变化的主要原因，而粮食供应方面最大的问题将是如何应对气候变化的影响。

谢谢！

引用 aubreychen 2011-3-5 20:56

If there were a real carbon price, farmers would think of their fields in terms of the carbon embodied in crops and soil.
我认为是：如果把以炭为价格参照，那么农民们会将它们的田地视作形成农作物的炭和土壤。

引用 dqzxf 2011-3-5 21:00

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What is a Carbon Price?

This is an administrative approach imposing a cost on the emission of greenhouse gases which cause global warming. Paying a price for carbon spewed into our atmosphere is a way of motivating countries, businesses and individuals to reduce carbon emissions. It also provides an incentive to invest and deploy renewable energy technology that does not emit carbon to our atmosphere. Such a pricing mechanism would also act as a disincentive for electricity generators to use relatively more polluting coal, gas and oil fired stations.

For carbon price policy to be effective, “at least two broad policy elements are required: fairly uniform, pervasive emission pricing from taxes, permit trading, or combinations of the two; and significant government support for innovation of new, low-emission technologies, via a mixture of patents, prizes, subsidies and direct spending.

“Technology-focused policy and the Kyoto Protocol approach have been falsely presented as incompatible, which ignores the possibility of combining them, and many other options worth considering for a suite of climate policies to last well into the 21st century. As a result, purely technology-focused climate policy will either be very inefficient or very ineffective. Given current funding, we fear the latter, meaning that countries exclusively following such policies will be literally fiddling while carbon burns.” (December, 2006. John C.V. Pezzey, Frank Jotzo and John Quiggin Australian National University Economics and Environment Network Working Paper).

In May 2007 the World Bank's carbon finance unit released figures to show that the global carbon market last year trebled to $30 billion (U.S.) from $11 billion in 2005. The emissions trading program of the European Union is the hub of the global market, and it trebled to $24 billion in turnover last year. Kyoto's clean development mechanism , or CDM, works by capping emissions by rich countries, forcing them to buy permits from poor countries to emit greenhouse gases, which some fear may raise business costs in the developed world. Yvo de Boer from the UNs climate section believes that finance flows of some $100 billion per year are likely in the years after 2012. See this interesting paper on the moral responsibility of climate change.

引用 aubreychen 2011-3-5 21:15

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真长啊。。读了一半儿，大概明白carbon price的意思。原来是排炭交钱的意思。那么把这句话和后文练习起来就能理解问什么种carbon capture会在选择之中。
不过carbon price是我错了，但是我还是觉得carbon只是embody成了crops而不是也成了soil。

引用 aubreychen 2011-3-5 21:45

The genomes of most major crops have been sequenced
主要农作物的基因组序列已经被测出。

引用 aubreychen 2011-3-5 22:45

是测序，因为我是学生物技术的。。。。。

引用 34beyond 2011-3-11 22:06

请问 为何音频下载不了le?

引用 19880109 2011-3-16 14:29

引用 Hansomyoung 2011-3-18 16:50

引用 星语心愿 2011-3-18 16:52

自已动手丰衣足食毛主席说的话以留传至今，能够更好的改变生活。

引用 utopiaa 2011-3-21 20:52

请问，怎么下载不了，提说没登陆，可是我已经登陆了。。。

引用 utopiaa 2011-3-22 22:00

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哦,这样啊，thx ：）

引用 Somers 2011-5-31 18:32

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有几个句子跟你理解不太一样：

If passing fancies like trade bans can almost double world food prices twice in four years, imagine what a stumble in efforts to boost yields might do.
原译：如果像禁止出口粮食这类心血来潮的措施几乎可以使世界粮食价格在四年时间内两次翻番，可以试想提高粮食产量有多么之难。
我的理解：如果像禁止出口粮食这类心血来潮的措施几乎可以使世界粮食价格在四年时间内两次翻番，可以试想若提高粮食产量的努力受阻将会导致什么。

If there were a real carbon price, farmers would think of their fields in terms of the carbon embodied in crops and soil.That in turn would influence ...
原译：如果存在一种有形的碳价，农民们认为他们的农田就是一种以农作物和土壤为载体的碳。这种观点反过来又……
我的理解：如果存在一种有形的碳价，农民们就会从作物和土壤中所含碳量的角度来认识他们的农田。这就会……
接下来的in turn，不一定是反过来，American Heritage Dictionary给的in turn的释义：  In the proper order or sequence.

引用 dqzxf 2011-5-31 22:06

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基本同意您的见解，比我的原译好多了。

1、If passing fancies like trade bans can almost double world food prices twice in four years, imagine what a stumble in efforts to boost yields might do.
原译：如果像禁止出口粮食这类心血来潮的措施几乎可以使世界粮食价格在四年时间内两次翻番，可以试想提高粮食产量有多么之难。
我的理解：如果像禁止出口粮食这类心血来潮的措施几乎可以使世界粮食价格在四年时间内两次翻番，可以试想若提高粮食产量的努力受阻将会导致什么。

再改进一点：如果像禁止出口粮食这类心血来潮的措施几乎可以使世界粮食价格在四年时间内两次翻番，可以试想若提高粮食产量的努力受阻将会导致什么样的后果。



If there were a real carbon price, farmers would think of their fields in terms of the carbon embodied in crops and soil.That in turn would influence ...
原译：如果存在一种有形的碳价，农民们认为他们的农田就是一种以农作物和土壤为载体的碳。这种观点反过来又……
我的理解：如果存在一种有形的碳价，农民们就会从作物和土壤中所含碳量的角度来认识他们的农田。这就会……
接下来的in turn，不一定是反过来，American Heritage Dictionary给的in turn的释义：  In the proper order or sequence.

in turn 在这里是指农民改变了观念，这些新观念又指导他们改变耕作习惯，所以就是一个“实践——理论——实践”的过程，用“反过来”比较符合汉语的表达习惯。

引用 handsome2011 2011-12-1 13:44

学习。

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